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The issue, IMO, are all of the other guys he's totally missed on. The Gabe Yorks, PJC's and Chase Commanche's - they either transfer, or fizzle out or are simply just not AZ good.

I understand your point, but PJC played with more heart than anybody on last years team.  Just sayin......

Totally agree... he is one of my very favorite Miller players.

Was he good enough be the starting point guard at point guard U? 

Not his fault, there was no lack of effort. But how does, for example, ASU have Remy Martin and we have PJC or Justin Coleman?

That is my point about Miller's recruiting. Ayton was AMAZING - best college big man I have ever seen. Literally Hakim Olajuwan (probably under rated in retrospect) or Patrick Ewing (probably over rated in retrospect) or David Robinson (probably rated about right in retrospect) type player - once or twice in a decade do we see a guy like that in all of college hoops. But Zeus was similarly rated as a high school prospect, in fact rivals had him rated slightly higher and WTF?! happened there? After four years of Miller, he was not even drafted.

I do think Miller has done an awesome job at recruiting elite talent, but looking close and other than that amazing 2009 class, it has been veery uneven form one recruit to another. He has relied on graduate transfers and transfers for many key roles that he should have recruited for. And that includes consideration for the one and ones.
 

As long as you're evaluating past ratings of players, perhaps you could consider doing that with the players you blame Miller for not being as good as you expected?  You really think Zeus didn't improve at AZ?  His post moves and mid range shot improved quite a bit in my opinion.  What held him back from getting drafted had everything to do with athleticism and physical measurables.  Zeus was big, hard working, and had good defensive awareness.  But a 7'0 player without high level athleticism and a 6'11 wingspan is just not a great fit for the NBA.  Plenty of guards have a similar wingspan with elite athleticism. 
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To Miller's credit, PJC was not recruited to be our starter.  He was the backup to TJ & everybody was under the impression that another elite prospect would come along before Parker had an opportunity to become our sole PG.

Remy Martin's shot is flatter than Brandon Randolph.  His shooting percentage dropped drastically since Hurley gave him more minutes this season & I'd almost prefer Coleman.

I truly believe that Chance Comanche would have had an opportunity to excel at Arizona if he didn't prematurely jump to the G-League.  He wasn't ready to earn significant PT.  When it was his turn...he bailed.

Otherwise, Zeus, Pitts and Chol seem to be the only Top-100 kids that hung around long enough & didn't develop under our staff.  Although York was never "the man", he shot well from 3-PT, didn't turn it over often & played hard.
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Reminds me of Tark-lite. But better handles, quicker first step, softer touch, and faster down court. But wait.... he doesn't really remind me of Tark at all.  😁😁😁
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The issue, IMO, are all of the other guys he's totally missed on. The Gabe Yorks, PJC's and Chase Commanche's - they either transfer, or fizzle out or are simply just not AZ good.

I understand your point, but PJC played with more heart than anybody on last years team.  Just sayin......

Totally agree... he is one of my very favorite Miller players.

Was he good enough be the starting point guard at point guard U? 

Not his fault, there was no lack of effort. But how does, for example, ASU have Remy Martin and we have PJC or Justin Coleman?

That is my point about Miller's recruiting. Ayton was AMAZING - best college big man I have ever seen. Literally Hakim Olajuwan (probably under rated in retrospect) or Patrick Ewing (probably over rated in retrospect) or David Robinson (probably rated about right in retrospect) type player - once or twice in a decade do we see a guy like that in all of college hoops. But Zeus was similarly rated as a high school prospect, in fact rivals had him rated slightly higher and WTF?! happened there? After four years of Miller, he was not even drafted.

I do think Miller has done an awesome job at recruiting elite talent, but looking close and other than that amazing 2009 class, it has been veery uneven form one recruit to another. He has relied on graduate transfers and transfers for many key roles that he should have recruited for. And that includes consideration for the one and ones.
 
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Arizona Wildcats Basketball / Re: Pac-12 Rivalry Week ???
« Last post by jumpinjohnny on Today at 01:30:07 PM »
Pac-12 Rivalry Week Would be played the last weekend in January, all teams would play. Travel and preperations would be limited by playing the same team. All teams would have a Wednesday Sunday Games Schedule.
Arizona vs Arizona State Wednesday
Arizona State vs Arizona Sunday
Utah vs Colorado Wednesday
Colorado vs Utah Sunday 
And the same for the rest of the Pac-12 teams.
Teams would have an extra full week for rest or could schedule another out of conference game in the middle of their season.

Interesting! Me think me likes.
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Chuck Cecil tweets On coach O. Awesome

https://twitter.com/chuckcecil26/status/1097917432520273921

First, I knew and know many people around Lute's earlier days in Tucson and to a person, including players, never heard single bad word about the guy. He was not the warm fuzzy type - but he also was never one to self aggrandize or make big deal out of anything. I think it would be hard to find anyone in history who has had more impact on Tucson, other than maybe Fanklin Pierce (Gadsden Purchase). So I am sure everyone is hoping for his speedy recovery and continued good health. 

But OMG!!!

I just realized - Cecil wants to be an A.D.

Look, he could have just about any coaching job he wanted... but he's stuck in the film room doing yeoman's work to learn the inner workings of a program and Athletic department.

This erudite, smart and heart felt post on twitter is so perfectly worded and coming from a place of inner strength and confidence.

I was curious why he was not on the field coaching, but now I get it.


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