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COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF EXPANSION
« on: September 12, 2019, 06:14:47 PM »
This is my take on on an expanded CFB Playoff.
It is an alternative approach to the standard 8-team model that has been proposed for years. All feedback is welcome.




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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF EXPANSION
« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2019, 07:39:02 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: September 16, 2019, 09:27:36 PM »
Actually well thought out in many aspects. The only negative I would have is that a true playoff would have to honor every single D1 conference champion. There are reasons for it like the way basketball is set up. Then they are seeded as you say. Also, the difference between 16 and 11 doesn't change in time frame because several teams would have a bye with 11 where with 16 no team would have a bye. With 11 there would have to be a 2 team per conference limit. With 16 not so because you cannot take a 3rd place team from a conference like the SEC when there is a one loss Boise State or PAC school. Take for instance the current ranking have 5 SEC schools in the top 11 so it would be 5 SEC schools? Does not work for the rest of college football. At 11 it would need to at least have every P5 conference winner as well as any independent/Non P5 school rated in maybe the top 12-15, otherwise the pre-season polls and on would favorable to the P5. Great idea though. Expansion is needed!

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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF EXPANSION
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2019, 03:08:00 AM »
An expanded playoff would bring opportunity to programs that didn’t deserve a fair chance.

Still, there’s no way they could squeeze extra games into the season during finals. Also, the alumni couldn’t realistically afford a play in game, two additional neutral sites and the final four...which already have astronomical costs associated with tickets, hotels, etc.

It’s hard enough for UCF to fill their stands. Throw in a few more cross country road games and they’d be playing in front of empty crowds.

I wouldn’t mind seeing a play in game for a 6 team playoff. 8 at the most...but that’s still a lot of football for college kids that may be trying to avoid injury to stay draft eligible.

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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF EXPANSION
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2019, 05:41:28 AM »
The funny thing about it is that EVERY other Div of football does it without an issue. Yet the excuses keep coming that WE cannot do it.
Again, like with the NCAA tourney, it would be a MAJOR success. Tournament games are different than 40 more bowl games. As you can tell, I don't buy those lies!

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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF EXPANSION
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2019, 12:02:08 PM »
I like it but would do 12 teams with top 4 getting a bye. The college football playoff is awesome, more of it will be better. More money will be made. The other 250 bowl games can still happen, everybody wins. It is a matter of when not if if ya ask me.

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« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2019, 02:51:07 PM »
I don't like the bye week just for a reason.

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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF EXPANSION
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2019, 03:32:39 PM »
Why dont they just do it like FCS, D2, D3 and D4 playoff system. It just as easy as that.

I would prefer 16 team playoff but every time their always these kind of conservation were it will never get thru or it will happen.


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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF EXPANSION
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2019, 07:05:46 PM »
There are still a lot of people that don't want the playoff expanded at all, so if they were actually willing to compromise, I doubt they would ever be okay with expanding from 4 to 16. They would want the bare minimum of 8. A field of 8 is better than a field of 4 but, in my opinion, the same criticisms of 4 will still be present at 8.
The way I view it is that a field of 8 will still be criticized for not being inclusive enough to the entirety of FBS. The best way to frame the proposal for 11 is that it is, in fact, also an 8-team model. The only difference is that it ensures that the final field of 8 are the 8 teams that truly deserved their playoff spot. And those extra few slots 9, 10, and 11 make UCF-type selections possible. That is right around where those types finish when they run the table.

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Good point. 12 does function the same as 11 aside from number of Byes. The main reason I chose 11 is because the two primary numbers of focus are Top 5 and Top 10, which are very easy for people to latch on to. You're right, though.

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I do think that the only way a field larger than 8 would get approved is if Byes are involved because those top schools are going to be asking why they have to play an extra game when they excelled at a higher level than everyone else. They will want to be rewarded, and college football needs their dynasty schools to be happy.
I don't know if there should be an auto-bid for a conference title. It would certainly be valuable on a résumé to lock in your spot or potentially get a Bye, but you wouldn't want to see a flukey conference champ from a weak division of a conference steal a spot when their body of work doesn't make the cut aside from the title. Ultimately, you just want the 11 best teams. That will almost always include at least 1 team from every P5 school, unless the Pac12 keeps embarrassing themselves lol but hypothetically, if it ended up being 1 Pac12, 1 ACC, 2 Big12, 3 Big10, 4 SEC, then I guess that's just how it will be sometimes. But if those 11 teams are the best 11, then that's a good thing. The SEC won't always have that many every time.

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For this season, the playoff semifinals are on Dec. 28th and the title game is January 13th. If you bump the semifinals forward a week and played the quarterfinals on Dec. 27-28th instead, that would mean that the play-in games would be around Dec. 20-21st. That is after finals are over. Also, don't the playoff schools make a boatload of money for being in the playoff? Also, I don't think any college football playoff game will be played with an "empty crowd". It's not like it's some Preparation H Bowl played in a Walmart parking lot in the middle of nowhere. If UCF made the field of 8, it would mean they are undefeated, already pulled a play-in upset, and are riding a huge hype train, so I'm sure people would want to see it. Also, it IS more games, but it's still less games than they'll have to play in an NFL season. Some stars may hold themselves out, but I bet the majority of players would be lined up in droves ready for an opportunity to show what they can do in a playoff.

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Re: COLLEGE FOOTBALL PLAYOFF EXPANSION
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2019, 09:04:11 PM »
I get that with the bye in the 11 or 12 team set up which would be nice for the teams that play the extra conference championship game. Had not really considered that so much. But only either 3 or 4 of them. Sounds good even of we went to a 6 or 8 team format it would be better. U der the 8 or more there needs to be a rep from every P5 conference though and not just 3 SEC teams on auto add.

 





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