Agree that Neither should have ever come to Arizona.
BUT THE ISSUE IS NOT THE PLAYERS.
When you have thoroughbreds, as both trier and Simmons are - you don't use them to plough fields. We play the pack line D - designed specifically to slow the game down, not utilize speed, height or ability. Any great basketball player by definition, is playing out of position (or, at least, 3 decades out of time) when they are forced to play the pack line D.
Have no idea why any good players would ever come to a program that runs pack line D.
The notion that Simmons was buried in a talent pool is silly. Simmons is, after Ayton and Markannen the third or fourth best pure BB talent Miller has recruited. Gordon is the only other that even comes close. He was better than everyone but Markannen on the team and better than Markannen after Miller moved Lauri 'inside'. Miller sat Kobi for the last 1/3rd and yet he remained positive, cheered on his team mates and took the high road. Simmons was wasted and abused by Miller.
Trier needs a running, wide open offense...he would have had huge averages in a Lute type system or a Calipari, Roy Williams, Bill Self type system.
AZ players are held back by the low scoring, brain dead D, lack of true PG's to distribute the ball (other than TJ) and coach who makes capricious, baffling personnel decisions.