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Defense apparently submitted motion to have testimony thrown out. Speculation based on opinion this is too good to make up

This trial is heading for derailment fast

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Something to remember... the prosecution asked the judge to not let Miller testify. Why would it then turn around and incriminate Miller in wrongdoings? It didn’t.

Yesterday was pretty solid evidence that Miller never had a conversation with Dawkins the way that Dawkins portrays it. If he did, that conversation would’ve been played for the court.

Dawkins is bragging to someone he thinks has money. He’s trying to use whatever slim contact he had with Miller to bolster his image as a major player (to get the guy to invest). Ayton was the biggest name in college basketball... Dawkins saying Miller told him he wants him to come in and take over Ayton was meant to impress and get money from the dude.

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You start dipping into the college football landscape & this thing would get out of hand.  There isn't one of 3,000 D-1 players on scholarship that hasn't received "something" for attending school.

I know a former D1 coach and several former players...I think the system is way corrupt but not in all of the obvious ways. I suspect very few players ever receive cash specifically for signing a letter of intent and the ones that do are the 5 star types. But I think it is over stated that 'everyone' cheats and 'everyone' is corrupt.




 
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Not specifically cash...but future benefits, "fake" jobs during college, cars (lease OR gift), family housing, etc.

Everybody knows people that received at least one of the above for participating in collegiate athletics.  It isn't a secret that football is the most corrupt, yet basketball is getting the attention because it would be WAY too hard to investigate the amount of corruption on the football side.

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Not specifically cash...but future benefits, "fake" jobs during college, cars (lease OR gift), family housing, etc.

Everybody knows people that received at least one of the above for participating in collegiate athletics.  It isn't a secret that football is the most corrupt, yet basketball is getting the attention because it would be WAY too hard to investigate the amount of corruption on the football side.

and money involved because ncaa is making lots and lots of money with football
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Skip to the 9 minute make in the below video to hear Aaron Torres's opinion on what Dawkins said about Miller yesterday in the trail. Totally agree.

https://twitter.com/Aaron_Torres/status/1121471690704244736

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The judge is not going to reconsider having Miller take the stand.

https://twitter.com/DanWetzel/status/1121403644128133120

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because of a belief.....facts vs your word and mine.  I mean come on Dawkins this is sad
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Not specifically cash...but future benefits, "fake" jobs during college, cars (lease OR gift), family housing, etc.

Everybody knows people that received at least one of the above for participating in collegiate athletics.  It isn't a secret that football is the most corrupt, yet basketball is getting the attention because it would be WAY too hard to investigate the amount of corruption on the football side.

and money involved because ncaa is making lots and lots of money with football

Here is the problem with that reasoning. ~80% of the NCAA's budget comes from the D1 basketball tournament, NOT football, and in recent years the NCAA's budget has hovered around $1 billion. The individual schools/conferences make the football money.

Where does the ~$1billion in revenue go every year? A: back to the 1,268 schools. In many different forms. But more than 70% of it is distributed - ~30% of it covers marketing and licensing and in recent years tons of legal fees from those seeking to take more money away from the students the NCAA helps.

People say we should pay the kids because schools and the NCAA are 'getting rich', but they aren't. NO OFFICIAL ENTITY IS GETTING RICH OFF COLLEGE ATHELTICS - NOT THE NCAA, NOT THE CONERENCES AND NOT THE SCHOOLS. THEY ARE ALL NON-PROFIT ORGANIZATIONS. Most of that money goes right back to the kids. Football funds scholarships, facilities and travel for other sports at the school level. TV revenue among conferences is shared. Championship revenue from the NCAA is redistributed to every single member school.

The NCAA has a vested interest in maintaining the status quo for sure, but that is because THEY ARE OBLIGATED as members of a non-profit board of governors (their title) to keep the best interests of the organization in mind.

The notion that the NCAA or the schools are 'getting rich' is silly - they are providing scholarships that will enhance lives and make their players rich over an entire lifetime. They players are well compensated for what they do. At most schools they have additional academic support, books and fees covered, better dorm housing, some (or all) free food, healthcare, extensive travel...all things that the average students don't have provided for them by the institutions.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Collegiate_Athletic_Association

http://www.ncaa.org/about/where-does-money-go
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because of a belief.....facts vs your word and mine.  I mean come on Dawkins this is sad

I have read about 5 articles on the trial and listened to a couple of podcasts - this defense makes absolutely no sense. It almost seems like reasonable doubt defense but the key word is 'reasonable' and with the total absence of any evidence or facts or testimony or depositions...you are correct - very sad.
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