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Washington will have the PAC12 freshmen of the year next year in Isiah Stewart...Green looked like a junior high player in that championship game compared to Stewart in that game. Street us 247's #3 player over all and #2 center. They also have the Kentucky transfer who was one of the top PG's in his class who sat out a year to replace Crisp....and their coach...can coach.

They're not going to have to play in to the tournament.
That is definitely debatable in who wins PAC-12 FOY.
Almost every relevant program thatís going to be in the race for a title has a freshman or freshmen that will play a part.
Arizona/USC both have two 5* prospects, Oregon has 2-3 top 50 prospects and losing a lot of returning talent.

Handing it to Stewart now is way too premature.
He is going to fill the role that Dickerson is leaving and as good as he was, Dickerson was not an All-PAC player.
Iíd put my money on the kid going to USC, umm I forget his name but the one who has the little brother that people are saying is going to be the #1 pick in the 2021 NBA Draft?
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I've heard people call Stewart the most college ready player in the class. And from the little I've seen of him I can see why he's built similarly to Ayton and has similar skillsets though considerably shorter at 6-9 he'll likely be the best interior player in the conference. And I believe you're talking about Isaiah Mobley haven't really seen anything on him so I can't really judge but I'd assume it will be between Stewart and Mannion considering they're the two highest ranked recruits entering the conference.

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I've heard people call Stewart the most college ready player in the class. And from the little I've seen of him I can see why he's built similarly to Ayton and has similar skillsets though considerably shorter at 6-9 he'll likely be the best interior player in the conference. And I believe you're talking about Isaiah Mobley haven't really seen anything on him so I can't really judge but I'd assume it will be between Stewart and Mannion considering they're the two highest ranked recruits entering the conference.
Yes! That is his name.
I watched them play I believe it was Wisemannís HS team on ESPN?
The older Mobley clearly looked to be the better player in that game, but both of their avgs for the season were insane.
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Zero chance in hell anyone is "close" to looking like the body and readiness as Deandre Ayton. That was a once in a lifetime player. Please.

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Zion Williams, Anthony Davis just to name a few.

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I should say once in a lifetime for Arizona, but also the NCAA as a center since we aren't comparing True Centers to Small Forwards Apples to Oranges.

Zion is also a once in a lifetime for College as the NBA will start allowing HS kids again as soon as Lebron's son is ready. Anthony Davis was a stick figure who would have been bullied by Ayton. The last player that even resembled Ayton was Tim Duncan and he wasn't even close to as athletically gifted. Same with KAT, AD, Embiid. None of them were in the physical shape Ayton was in when they played though they may have improved once they had professional conditioning and training.

Maybe David Robinson had the build of Ayton. But now we are approaching Legend territory.

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Good point.

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I should say once in a lifetime for Arizona, but also the NCAA as a center since we aren't comparing True Centers to Small Forwards Apples to Oranges.

Zion is also a once in a lifetime for College as the NBA will start allowing HS kids again as soon as Lebron's son is ready. Anthony Davis was a stick figure who would have been bullied by Ayton. The last player that even resembled Ayton was Tim Duncan and he wasn't even close to as athletically gifted. Same with KAT, AD, Embiid. None of them were in the physical shape Ayton was in when they played though they may have improved once they had professional conditioning and training.

Maybe David Robinson had the build of Ayton. But now we are approaching Legend territory.
Robinson was that size when he entered the NBA but he spent 4 yrs in college then served for a year in the Navy. He wasn't that size his freshman year. And yes he is a legend and a legendary nice guy. I sent him a basketball card when I was in 9th grade and he sent it back signed. That is when I knew the signed card I had bought was a forgery. He sent a letter back that referenced the letter I wrote him. Now, he might have had someone write that letter for him but still, it wasn't just a stock, thanks for being a fan letter.

Only time I ever did that. It took a couple months to get back but... I digress.

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Very cool story! and yes very good point. It took David Robinson military training and 4 years to look like Ayton did as a Freshman. LoL, Insane!

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Zero chance in hell anyone is "close" to looking like the body and readiness as Deandre Ayton. That was a once in a lifetime player. Please.

Isiah Stewart is close in fundamentals like footwork, body strength and he may have a higher BB IQ. He is as ready for D1 as Ayton was, just based on the one game I saw (never saw Ayton in HS, just comparing him to Ayton's first few games) 

Agree that Ayotn is a physical specimen and his footwork was insane...IMO, the best comparison was Alojouwan and you are correct that is legend territory. Brian Williams had that body too, but did not work on it and did not have the same training available, I suspect. Had he wanted to be, I suspect he could have been one of the greatest ever. He was absurdly explosive and dominant when he wanted to be.

Yes, Green scored more in that game... but Stewart was the best player in that game by a huge margin. Fundamentally solid.
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