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Offline GoCatZ

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This is a really interesting listen. You can click the link below to listen and keep on browsing. 

https://www.iheart.com/podcast/464-the-drive-on-fox-sports-91-28226172/episode/byron-browne-explains-what-could-happen-30534445/



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Very good... thank you.

"They obviously have clear and convincing evidence...." seems like maybe I've heard that somewhere before.

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Hopefully after hearing this some will realize that after thousands of hours of lawyers trying to find anything they can on Miller has come up pretty much empty as of now or he'd be gone. We've already seen that the UofA, Heeke/Robbins aren't taking anything lightly after seeing how they are handling all of this. That's why we have to wait before jumping to conclusions when any news comes out.  I don't agree with everything the lawyer said, but it's interesting to hear it from his perspective.

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If the FBI had anything he would be with Book! Because of the internal investigation and the outside pressures, SM would be gone if there were anything on him. Is the University being OVER 'CYA' in firing the assistant or do they really know more? His attorney says otherwise but they always do.

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Biggest thing is book wasn't paying players to attend Az like this lawyer leads on. He's un informed on the details and casting a wide net. They hired the lawfirm to get ahead of the ncaa and miller is still here and will be here next YEAR

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Biggest thing is book wasn't paying players to attend Az like this lawyer leads on. He's un informed on the details and casting a wide net. They hired the lawfirm to get ahead of the ncaa and miller is still here and will be here next YEAR

You did not listen very carefully, at no point did he suggest or 'lead on' that Miller paid anyone. He noted that was alleged against him. That was dispassionate as it could be - clearly not for or against.

He was clearly flabbergasted that Miller still has a job, so is Dan Lebetard, Dick Vitale, Mark Titus, Stephen A, Jim Rome...no one thinks Miller escapes this. And after 3 assistants, a laundry list of NCAA violations that have not even been investigated fully and god knows what else is coming, along with no Final Four and no hope of final four, I am too. Everyone who loves AZ BB should be. 

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3 assistants? 2 yes. They think miller should be fired because all anyone remembers is 100k for ayton. Ur using a defendants conversation as fact against JP. Many other head coaches and assistants are still employed. Likely cause they have more facts and not using what a defendant says with no evidence or espn making this about Az to protect their acc/espn  network about to launch next year.

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Hopefully after hearing this some will realize that after thousands of hours of lawyers trying to find anything they can on Miller has come up pretty much empty as of now or he'd be gone. We've already seen that the UofA, Heeke/Robbins aren't taking anything lightly after seeing how they are handling all of this. That's why we have to wait before jumping to conclusions when any news comes out.  I don't agree with everything the lawyer said, but it's interesting to hear it from his perspective.

I disagree with you, respectfully.

Look the program is spiraling downward - his W-L performance alone merits firing. Missing the tournament...but while he may not be at fault for any of his assistants mis steps, he is responsible for them.

When a 3 star Michelin restaurant in loses a star, unless the chef is the owner, the chef generally resigns. We have dumpster fire of corruption on top of horrid performance and had our recruiting class remained in tact last year, we would be exactly as awful s we are now. Its not the FBI or Schlabach or the NCAA stuff that hurt this program. Miller and his staff have recruited a few amazing 5 star all-everything players like Gordon, Ayton, Simmons and Markkanen but the majority have been busts (Barcello, both Smiths, Comanche...nearly everyone who was not a one and done) or, at best, disappointments given either their recruiting rankings or subsequent careers (PJC, Zeus, Trier, Akot, Williams....) 

Also missing is any sort of team chemistry, fun cohesive, happy players...proud of their team, etc...call it intangibles or x factors or whatever, but whatever 'it' is we don't got any. Maybe Doutrive...but that is not enough. 

If you look at the entire program, it is a dumpster fire that assistant coaches keep pouring gasoline on.

The notion that Miller did not technically do anything wrong (which is not proven either way) is astoundingly myopic and self defeating. He is still responsible for all of it. What part of the program is healthy? I don't thin recruiting is. Manion and Green are just the next one and done guys who will leave us with 4 other players form that class who are all about as good as the kids we have now. Assuming we can even give them scholarships once the NCAA gets done with us. 

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Biggest thing is book wasn't paying players to attend Az like this lawyer leads on. He's un informed on the details and casting a wide net. They hired the lawfirm to get ahead of the ncaa and miller is still here and will be here next YEAR


You did not listen very carefully, at no point did he suggest or 'lead on' that Miller paid anyone. He noted that was alleged against him. That was dispassionate as it could be - clearly not for or against.

He was clearly flabbergasted that Miller still has a job, so is Dan Lebetard, Dick Vitale, Mark Titus, Stephen A, Jim Rome...no one thinks Miller escapes this. And after 3 assistants, a laundry list of NCAA violations that have not even been investigated fully and god knows what else is coming, along with no Final Four and no hope of final four, I am too. Everyone who loves AZ BB should be.

Why does this comment, and the avalanche of others you repeatedly, without mercy, unload on PPU members--remind me of a stylus stuck in the groove of a vinyl record, totally incapable of producing anything other than the same, scratchy, monotonous sound? Could it be, you are in fact, a broken record?
Read em and weep

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Interesting.
He does not mention all that you are discussing.
We all know Book took a bribe. No evidence any money paid to recruits. The money was to get players to sign with agent, not to attend Arizona.
Pasternick was not employeed by Arizona long before he supposedly involved and that went no where.
The info out now was self reported, but was not released fully. Was this found during the internal investigation? Or is this something brought in from the outside? I do not buy anything in the ESPN story released earlier. I do not buy that Phelps actually did anything wrong. Who reported it? Was this something turned in by Phelps, the internal investigation, or an outside source? This could have been an outside source and Phelps says he did not do anything wrong. The process that has begun it to protect Arizona's name at this point. Begining the process is one thing, finishing it is another. This attorney sounds attornyish sounding but not well informed on the actual facts and is merely just playing a guessing game with what he is saying. NO inside information. I disagree with him totally. Likely Phelps will leave the program. I don't think SM goes anywhere immediately. Also the supena means he would have to appear. he is not being charged unless he speaks, so he could plead the fifth and walk away or he answer as long as it does not altar any of his previous statements he comes away clean.
So Book yes, and Phelps? We really do not know if anything at all about this story. SM should not testify. Claim the fifth and walk away or carefully choose his words and be cleared even further.

 


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